Nail Notes--July, 2000

Subject: Nail Notes 7-12-00
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:55:05 -0500
From: Jeff Oaks <>
Organization: University of Indianapolis

A fellow named Pat Schwab (I hope I spelled his mane right) has over 200
Lehigh & Hudson River nails, ranging in date from 18 up to 56.  He told
me he has 18, 19, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, etc., so it looks like
there is a lot of variety.  He pulled them himself about 1982 in New Jersey.

And now he is ready to move, and he wants to get rid of them.  He lives
in Williston, FL, and his phone number is 352-528-XXXX.  Give him a ring
if you are interested.  He has no idea what to charge for them.

<John Iacovino bought the nails.>


I got this note from Russ Hallock in June:

Hi Jeff,
    I had been pretty much out of the date nail game for a while but thought
I would let you about what I found yesterday while on a rail fan trip on the
Navy RR yesterday.  This is apparently the first time the base has been open
to the public since a similar trip in 1981.  Anyway, they seem to have been
using aluminum  nails since at least 1979, and last year they seem to have
used a steel nail "99".  I didn't dare pull any as MPs were all around but
did kick a few loose with my toe.  If no one else has reported on these, I
will send what I found to you for your inspection.  The ones I got are 79,
80, 86, 92, 95.
                                        Russell Hallock
                                        Washingtonville, NY


And Rolland Meyers has done his homework and has all the evidence I need
that the McCloud River RR used the 2 1/2 x 1/4 rnd R   stl (12) 60.  His
article will appear in the next Nailer News.

He also asks:  Does the Central Californai Traction 56 exist?


Jeff Oaks
Deptartment of Mathematics
University of Indianapolis
1400 E. Hanna Ave.
Indianapolis, IN 46227

Subject: Nail Notes 7-14-00
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 12:06:28 -0500
From: Jeff Oaks <>
Organization: University of Indianapolis

First, my semi-annual reminder:  If you do not want to receive "Nail
Notes", just send me an e-mail note to that effect.  Also, I apologize
for the long list of addresses which accompainied the last note.  I
forgot to click "Bcc" when I sent it.

Two items up for acquisition:


Christina Moore wrote to me: "I live in southwestern Virginia and my
husband and I just bought an old homeplace that included an old barn.
Nailed on the outside of the barn are old, dated nails that appear to
have been used for hanging items."  The nails are Norfolk & Western, and
she wants to sell them.  They are:

2 1/2 x 1/4  rnd R    stl (10) 24
2 1/4 x 9/32 sqr R    stl (07) 26,27
2 1/2 x 1/4  cut R    stl (07) 33,35,37,40

She has three 33's, two 37's, and one each of the others.  The 24 isn't
too common, and the 26 and 27 are by now quite hard to locate on the
N&W.  Since she doesn't know what to charge, she will accept e-mail bids
for them.  You can reach her at:


Jim Walker ( is selling a rare photo of the
construction of an SP bridge from 1887 on eBay.  For those of you who
HAVEN'T read the history of tie preservation in my book, that is the
year the SP began using zinc chloride treated ties.  The item is: SP


Subject: Nail Notes (brief!) 7-16-00
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 10:37:38 -0500
From: Jeff Oaks <>

Charlie Haenel ( wrote yesterday:

"I do have several thousand nails that I've pulled in NY, MA, VT and NH over the past three years. Most are from the D&H and B&M, but some are from NYC, Erie, Rutland, and a few odd others...

"One more thing, my goal is to put together full year sets by RR. This means most of what I've pulled is surplus. They are seperated by RR, some are cleaned, many are not if you are so inclined, I'd appreciate your sharing this information with the list.  I'm not clued into the value thing, so if anyone out there is willing to help with that it would be appreciated.I'm also willing to trade for the few D&H years I've been unable to find in the wild, if they can actually be certified somehow as being from that system. My e-mail address is , and my phone # (518) 766-4673. I'm  working out of state, and moving in the near future. Anyone interested will  get a response on the weekend when I'm home. There's an answering machine on the phone also.Thanks for your help."

And if anyone else out there is in a similar situation, let me know and we can share it with the group.

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