Nail Notes--July-November 2004

Subject: Nail Notes 7-10-04
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 08:57:20 -0500

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A question from the editor: <Rolland@rollandmeyers.com> Has anyone
reading this newsletter actually walked and pulled nails from the
Grafton & Upton Railroad? It is a very short Mass. short line. I would
like to hear from you if you have. I am trying to answer a few questions
about the nails used by that railroad. Thanks.

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Date nails still being produced

As a result of a recent search I did looking for current manufacturers
of date nails I found them still being made and used by major utilities.
After several weeks of searching, emails and "snail" mails I was able to
locate the manufacturer of the current type (10) nails. They are 2 1/2 x
3/16 round raised steel. The Pacific Gas & Electric Co. and the Kansas
City Power and Light, along with others still use these nails. The set
actually starts with the 1975 nail. I had the opportunity to talk with
the original founder of this company who retired and sold his company in
1989. I was surprised to learn the present manufacturer not only
continues to make date nails, but also sets of code nails (0-9) and pole
height nails (25-95) in five foot increments.. I knew the nail show was
coming to New Mexico and I also knew I could not haul nails there on an
aircraft, so Charles Sebesta offered to cover the fairly large minimum
purchase requirments and we had the nails sent to him since he was
driving to the nail show and the following show in August (in Caldwell,
Texas) was being hosted by him. Charles has sets of these nails for sale
for anyone interested. I believe the price is $20.00 postpaid for 27
different nails, which includes the "delta" nail used at one time by
PG&E. It has a delta symbol on the head. For particulars contact Charles
at P.O. Box 580, Caldwell, TX 77836 or <csebesta@alpha1.net>.

http://facstaff.uindy.edu/~oaks/NailNotes/type(10)codeset.jpg
http://facstaff.uindy.edu/~oaks/NailNotes/type(10)dateanddelta.jpg
http://facstaff.uindy.edu/~oaks/NailNotes/type(10)heightset.jpg
http://facstaff.uindy.edu/~oaks/NailNotes/type(10)modernset.jpg

I also found another manufacturer recently who makes one inch aluminum
date nails. I am currently trying to find out how long they have made
them, who they distribute them to and if they make other than aluminum
nails. More to come on these nails...I hope.

http://facstaff.uindy.edu/~oaks/NailNotes/2003(--)alum.jpg

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Great Northern finds

An informative piece of information from Charles and Cheryl Johnson of
Kila, MT <haskell@centurytel.net>. They both have been very busy lately
pulling nails from the Great Northern, Northern Pacific, Butte Anaconda
& Pacific and Milwaukee Road. When I asked them if they had pulled the
short two inch square raised nails from the Great Northern in their part
of the country I was surprised at the reply: ..."We have found at least
one of all the 2" square nails except the 29 in the areas we have
searched but no major concentration of them.  And every one of them has
been between the rails in triangle ties. When we found these square
nails in triangle ties, we were kind of surprised that we found them in
that type of tie. We had read someplace that the GN had stopped using
triangle ties long before that time."

In the last two years Charles and Cheryl have discovered several
heretofore unreported pole nails used by the Great Northern. The finds
have been accurately verified with film, noting milepost markers and the
nails facing the tracks etc., so this is a set of pole nails, different
than those used by the Northern Pacific which had a large set of their own.

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Add these nails to the Canadian Pacific tie set:

1926, 1927 and 1935 (38) 2 1/2 x 1/4 round raised, oval shank chisel
point, steel. Arn Kriegh of Edgemont, SD pulled the 26 and 27, and Terry
Hill of Ontario, Canada pulled the 35's all from ties. Arn and Terry
found theirs on a branchline in Sask. Canada. A note should be made here
that the 1926 chisel point is vertical with the date whereas the 27 and
35 are like the rest of the set with the chisel point horizontal
relative to the date.

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Again, if the readers have stories, information, anectdotes relative to
the date nail hobby, please submit them to <rolland@rollandmeyers.com>.
I am getting a little weary of filling the margins of these pages by
myself and would welcome some help here!! <;>)

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Union Pacific 34's

There are three distinct varieties of the Union Pacific 1934 (07) 2 x
1/4 round raised, steel nail. Two of them have been shown in Date Nails
Complete and Jeffs Date Nails and Railroad Tie Preservation. The :a
variety has a small date and a four with a distinct pointed top and
front. The :b variety has a very large date and the :c variety (the one
not shown) has a small date, but a little larger than the :a. But most
noticably the four has a very blunt top and front. The editor has pulled
many of these :c varieties in eastern Washington and in Idaho.

http://facstaff.uindy.edu/~oaks/NailNotes/1934(07)UPvarieties.jpg

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The biggest Nailer News yet!

The Spring 2004 (vol.34 no.2) of the Nailer News came out the week of
July 5th.  A full thirty-two pages + loose leaf insert! Full of
interesting articles along with photos of the Portales, New Mexico
spring show.  You could receive the next edition of the Nailer News by
sending a check for sixteen American dollars to: Jerry Waits, 501 W.
Horton, Brenham, TX 77833. That will also get you into the summer nail
show, August 6th and 7th at Caldwell, TX. (FREE)!! You will also receive
the membership list showing the names, addresses of other members and
their specific interests. This could lead to trades and finding some of
those nails and railroad items you have been looking
for.

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The next nail show

As noted above, the summer nail show will be in Caldwell, Texas and
hosted by Charles Sebesta. It will run Friday and Saturday mornings,
August 6th and 7th at the Caldwell Civic Center (new) at the corner of
Main and Hwy. 21. The show hours will be 8am - 5:30pm on Friday and 8 -
11:30am on Saturday. If you want to set up a table this can be done at
4pm Thursday the 5th.

For more information regarding lodging, directions etc., please contact
Charles Sebesta, the host, at: <csebesta@alpha1.net>

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A note from Jeff Oaks:

Rolland asked ne about the Tennessee Central 29.  In my book I
mistakenly show the

2 1/2 x 3/16  rnd R  gm stl (07) 29:b

twice.  Did they use the 29:a?  Beware that several people have
mistakenly put SP nails in their TC sets.  I would like to hear from
someone who has pulled the nails personally.  E-mail me at <oaks@uindy.edu>.

Also, in moving recently from one office to another at work I discovered
a few notes to me which I never answered---I am not as organized as many
of you may think.  If you have been waiting for a response from me
regarding some question, don't hesitate to remind me!!  I am never
offended or annoyed by such requests.

Happy nailing!

---Jeff


Subject: Nail Notes 8-23-04
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 11:25:22 -0500
From: Jeffrey Oaks <oaks@uindy.edu>
To: undisclosed-recipients: ;

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A question from the editor: <Rolland@rollandmeyers.com> Has anyone
reading this newsletter actually walked and pulled nails from the
Grafton & Upton Railroad?  It is a very short Mass. short line.  I would
like to hear from you if you have. I am trying to answer a few questions
about the nails used by that railroad. Thanks.

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As a result of a recent search I did looking for current manufacturers
of date nails I found them still being made and used by major utilities.
  After several weeks of searching, emails and "snail"mails I was able to
locate the manufacturer of the current type (10) nails. They are 2 1/2 x
3/16 round raised steel. The Pacific Gas & Electric Co. and the Kansas
City Power and Light, along with others still use these nails. The set
actually starts with the 1975 nail. I had the
opportunity to talk with the original founder of this company who
retired and sold his company in 1989. I was surprised to learn the
present manufacturer not only continues to make date nails, but also
sets of code nails (0-9) and pole height nails (25-95) in five foot
increments.. I knew the nail show was coming to New Mexico and I also
knew I could not haul nails there on an aircraft, so Charles Sebesta
offered to cover the fairly large minimum purchase requirments and we
had the nails sent to him since he was driving to the nail show and the
following show in August (in Caldwell, Texas) was being hosted by him.

Charles has sets of these nails for sale for anyone interested. I
believe the price is $20.00 postpaid for 27 different nails, which
includes the "delta" nail used at one time by PG&E. It has a delta
symbol on the head. For particulars contact Charles at P.O. Box 580,
Caldwell, TX 77836 or <csebesta@alpha1.net>.

http://facstaff.uindy.edu/~oaks/NailNotes/type(10)codeset.jpg
http://facstaff.uindy.edu/~oaks/NailNotes/type(10)heightset.jpg
http://facstaff.uindy.edu/~oaks/NailNotes/type(10)dateanddelta.jpg

I also found another manufacturer recently who makes one inch aluminum
date nails. I am currently trying to find out how long they have made
them, who they distribute them to and if they make other than aluminum
nails. More to come on these nails .....I hope.

http://facstaff.uindy.edu/~oaks/NailNotes/2003(--)alum.jpg

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An informative piece of information from Charles and Cheryl Johnson of
Kila, MT <haskell@centurytel.net>. They both have been very busy lately
pulling nails from the Great Northern, Northern Pacific, Butte, Anaconda
& Pacific and Milwaukee Road. When I asked them if they had pulled the
short two inch square raised nails from the Great Northern in their part
of the country I was surprised at the reply: ........"We have found at
least one of all the 2" square nails except the 29 in the areas we have
searched but no major concentration of them. And every one of them has
been between the rails in triangle ties. When we found these square
nails in triangle ties, we were kind of surprised that we found them in
that type of tie. We had read someplace that the GN had stopped using
triangle ties long before that time."

In the last two years Charles and Cheryl have discovered several
heretofore unreported pole nails used by the Great Northern. The finds
have been accurately verified with film, noting milepost markers and the
nails facing the tracks etc., so this is a set of pole nails, different
than those used by the Northern Pacific which had a large set of their own.

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Add these nails to the Canadian Pacific tie set:

1926, 1927 and 1935 (38) 2 1/2 x 1/4 round raised, oval shank chisel
point, steel. Arn Kriegh of Edgemont, SD pulled the 26 and 27.  Terry
Hill of Ontario, Canada pulled the 35's all from ties. Arn and Terry
found theirs on a branchline in Sask. Canada. A note should be made here
that the 1926 chisel point is vertical with the date whereas the 27 and
35 are like the rest of the set with the chisel point horizontal
relative to the date.

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Again, if the readers have stories, information, anectdotes relative to
the date nail hobby, please submit them to <rolland@rollandmeyers.com>.
I am getting a little weary of filling the margins of these pages by
myself and would welcome some help here!! <;>)

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There are three distinct varieties of the Union Pacific 1934 (07) 2 x
1/4 round raised, steel nail. Two of them have been shown in
Date Nails Complete  and Jeff's
Date Nails and Railroad Tie Preservation. The :a variety has a small
date and a four with a distinct pointed top and front. The :b variety
has a very large date and the :c variety (the one not shown) has a small
date, but a little larger than the :a. But most noticably the four has a
very blunt top and front. The editor has pulled many of these :c
varieties in eastern Washington and in Idaho.

http://facstaff.uindy.edu/~oaks/NailNotes/1934(07)UPvarieties.jpg

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The Spring 2004 (vol.34 no.2) of the Nailer News came out the week of
July 5th. A full thirty-two pages + loose leaf insert! Full of
interesting articles along with photos of the Portales, New Mexico
spring show. You could receive the next edition of the Nailer News by
sending a check for sixteen American dollars to: Jerry Waits, 501 W.
Horton, Brenham, TX 77833. That will also get
you into the summer nail show, August 6th and 7th at Caldwell, TX.
(FREE)!! You will also receive the membership list showing the names,
addresses of other members and their specific interests. This could lead
to trades and finding some of those nails and railroad items you have
been looking for.

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Chris Sandifer <chris.sandifer@pgnmail.com> sent Jeff two scans for
identification. The first was identified by Jeff as a Premax aluminum
date nail. The second one needs identification.

If anyone has seen this nail before please contact Nail Notes so we can
note that I.D. For the photo of this nail please go to:

http://facstaff.uindy.edu/~oaks/NailNotes/NE31.jpg

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For those who are looking for back issues of Nail Notes, they are all
available on Jeff's web page.  Click on the link in the middle column:

http://facstaff.uindy.edu/~oaks/DateNailInfo.htm

Or go directly:

http://facstaff.uindy.edu/~oaks/Resources.htm#NailNotes

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Curt Kremer <cgkremer@verizon.net> pulled nails from the Cheswich &
Harmar Railroad in PA way back in 1970-72. Some of these nails are not
on the current list of nails used by the C&H.

Here is that list of nails that Curt pulled back then. The nails not
listed as being part of that set are in bold. Does anyone else have
information regarding these nails being found on this line?

2 1/2 inch round: 1931; 1934; 1935; 1936.

2 inch round: 1935; 1937; 1938

2 inch square: 1940; 1941

thanks. [ed.]

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I just returned from the latest date nail show hosted by Charles Sebesta
and his charming wife in Caldwell, Texas. It was well attended and held
in a Veterans Hall that was brand new and a perfect venue for displaying
nails and other railroadiana. I must add that it was well air
conditioned, a
feature that was appreciated by all!! I think everyone, including this
editor, was eager to see Charles’ collection of nails. We were not
disappointed as he had them displayed at the show in fifteen or so full
sized (3x4) glass inclosed cases. Also shown were Don Blakes display
that is based on the book Date Nails Complete. Scott Weed made the show
with his collection of pole nails, Bill McClellan had a display of pole
and railroad nails. Others in attendance showing their
nails and railroad artifacts included: Bill Bunch, Arn Kreigh, Jerry
Waits, Lyman Robberson, Leon Sorenson, Dan Dupee’, John Haifley, Bruce
Gordon, George Oliva and others. (I am sure I forgot to mention
someone!).  Many were accompanied by their better halves. It was a
pleasure to finally meet some of these folks that I have communicated
with via email and phone, but never in person.

Lots of nails changed hands at this meet and Charles allowed anyone who
wanted to, to take a bucket of nails to their motel room to look through
on Friday evening. I took him up on this offer and was up until 1 am
looking through those nails.  I am sure my neighbors in the adjoining rooms
thought I had just robbed the kids piggy bank and was counting quarters
and halves from the sound the nails made dropping from Charles bucket to
the motel wastebasket as I sorted them out!! <;>)

George Oliva and I went out to the nearby area to scout for nails.  Did
not find much the first time out (Santa Fe tracks) and were "asked to
leave" from an area that had a gigantic pile of ties run by Koppers,
Inc.  We left!! After the show was over George and I traced the old SP
(T&NO) line west to Elgin, Texas.  We did find some nails and George
found an SP 8 code nail in one of the
bridge pilings. There was evidence that at one time there were codes in
probably every piling, but someone had beat us there!! <;>( (Probably
Charles or Jerry!!). George also found a 1939 (18C) that was driven into
the side of the tie on the portion outside the rail!! This is not the
"normal" placement spot for this railroad or any other as far as I know!
We also found most
nails were between the rail on the south side when going east/west. But
there were exceptions. We found all 1947 nails between the rails but on
the north side!?

It was an enjoyable get together, wonderful host, hostess and venue.
Thanks to all.

Rolland Meyers <rolland@rollandmeyers.com> [ed]

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I just received permission from Scott Weed <http://nailhunter.com> to
share his great photos of the date nail get together in Caldwell. These
photos can be viewed at:

http://nailhunter.ehost.com/2004.htm

You might also want to visit Scotts homepage for some great information
on pole, letter and foreign nails. Great web page.

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Happy nailing!!  ---Rolland

Nail Notes is edited by Rolland Meyers, and is mailed by Jeff Oaks.


Subject: Nail Notes 11-12-04
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 13:44:35 -0500
From: Jeffrey Oaks <oaks@uindy.edu>
To: undisclosed-recipients: ;

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John Iacovino (email address is in transition at this time) sends me the
following: Shown on the attached scan are 3, 1945, type 05 nails. The
first is a newly acquired nail verified from the Ann Arbor. Pulled by a
railroad employee in Cadillac, MI. The second two are from Date Nails. I
believe even considering the effect of hammering the first nail is
distinctly different variety from the latter two. What is your opinion?

http://facstaff.uindy.edu/~oaks/NailNotes/1945(2).jpg

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From Jerry Penry <jpenry@alltel.net> we hear about some Potosi and
survey nails.

On top of a fence post tie was stamped 9TRW5 which wasn’t unusual, but I
also noticed a "POTOSI 7" hammer stamp. It is about the size of a half
dollar. It is upside down just below the 9T. I am not sure if anyone had
uncovered Potosi stamps before on ties.

http://facstaff.uindy.edu/~Oaks/NailNotes/potosi7.jpg
http://facstaff.uindy.edu/~oaks/NailNotes/potosi7a.jpg

The other photo (link below) shows three types of survey nails that are currently
being used. Most collectors are familiar with the "PK" (Parker Kalon)
nails. The "MAG" (MAGnetic) nails came out a few years ago. The latest
nail that is just coming out is the "MH" nail which stands for "Mag Hub."

The new Mag Hub nails are manufactured by ChrisNik, Inc at <www.magnail.com>.

http://facstaff.uindy.edu/~oaks/NailNotes/surveynails.jpg

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Very Large Array date nails

Jeff Oaks received this note from Jim Oty <jimoty@sdc.org>:

Just came across your very interesting page on date nails. I am not a
collector but I have this short story about my experience with date nails.

Back in 1975, the National Astronomy Observatory started build a large
telescope array here in New Mexico. The large radio antennas were to be
transported on a rail system that had two parallel sets of track and
covered about 60 kilometers. The rail system was built from reclaimed
ties and rails to conserve cost. My job was to travel up and down the
tracks to service the electronic equipment in the antennas.  I began to
notice a lot of date nails in the ties and started pulling them. One of
the local 'characters' insisted they would bring a price of $1.00 each.
After accumulating over 600 nails I finally called a railroad
memorabilia store in Denver and asked if they had any nails for sale.
The answer was "We sure do. There is a barrel of them right here and you
can have all you want for $0.10 each". That busted my balloon.  Oh well !!!!!!

Any way, I have over 600 nails dating from as early as 1924. I tried to
identify some of them from a local library book but was not able to make
any sense of them.

Just a little anecdote about my experience. I have since retired  from
that job but it was fun "collecting" the nails.

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A follow up note from Jim:

You are right. The name of the facility is the VLA (Very Large Array).
And yes, you can use may email address where you think it is appropriate.

I will try to get a decent picture of the nail heads. I selected a group
of different dates, starting in 1924 ( recessed date) up to around 1960.
 When we started building the rail system one of our employees went
around the country locating old railroad lines that were abandoned and
salvaged what he could find. A lot of the old ties were in pretty bad
shape and most of them have been replaced in the past 20 years or so. I
think new ties were purchased for replacement. I have been meaning to
find out where the old ties were disposed of - I think they were burned
so there should be some nails there.

Just for a little background, the array was started in 1975 and the
track construction was finished a few years later. The contractor
brought in his own engine to haul ballast cars up and down the track.
The engine came from the Tidewater Southern. The array was in the shape
of a Y with each arm being about 13 miles long. A double set of standard
gauge tracks went the extent of each arm and there were short side
tracks to each of 72 stations. So you can imagine it was quite an
undertaking. We had several modified vehicles - Fairmont - to run up and
down the rails. Lots of fun for an old railroad fan like me.

Regards,

Jim

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I was reading the latest edition of Nail Notes and noticed the article
about New Zealand Date Nails or Sleepers as they call them. I have
almost a complete set of those; missing only '4, '6, and '27. If one of
your contacts has any of these dates for sale please let me know. I will
pay good money as long as it's not too over the top. Thanks...

Butch Tweedy <btweede@earthlink.net>

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Upcoming nail show!

Bruce Gordon <gordon6548@bellsouth.net> will host the coming Spring Nail
show in Shelbyville, KY on March 4-5, 2005. It will be held at the
Wadrige Center of the Family Activity Complex of Clear Creek Park. More
information will appear in the next Nail Notes regarding hotel
accomodations available and other pertinent information. This location
is the same as the Nail show of 2001 which saw a good turnout.

Bruce also said he met a retiree from the RJ Corman Co. who had pulled
several nails out of Ohio from a line Corman bought, now called the SPEG
line. They were from the Erie and there are several (10) 33's.

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The latest edition of Nailer News (Summer 2004) is out and includes
seven pages of photos from the Summer show at Caldwell, TX hosted by
Charles Sebesta. The show was well attended and everyone there got a
chance to see Charles' extensive, and probably the best collection in
the country. Winners of awards at the show included: Best of Show:
Charles Sebesta; First Place Railroad Nails: John Haifley; First Place
Pole Nails: Scott Weed; Second Place Railroad Nails: Don Blake; Distance
Traveled: Dan Dupee.

Also in this edition was great article by Charles Johnson on hunting
nails in Montana, the hard way. Digging up the discarded ties at the
base of steep roadbeds, meeting bears and bear scat in the process!! As
a result of this Charles and his wife Cheryl ended up getting over 90 GN
letter nails and several early dates. Charles sent me a photo of a
recent trip where he and Cheryl met up with a sow GRIZZLY and her two
cubs while looking for nails!! He noted that he let them have nail
rights from that point on!

http://facstaff.uindy.edu/~oaks/NailNotes/SummitBears.jpg

This editor had an article regarding the New Zealand set of nails with
the help of some friends I met on my recent trip there. I received
permission to reprint a 1977 article written there along with photos of
the "1918 remake" nail!

To receive your copy of the next Nailer News and become a member in the
Texas Date Nail Collectors Association just send $16.00 to Jerry Waits,
501 W. Horton, Brenham, TX 77833 (979-830-1495). You will also receive
the membership book that list the interests, specialties and addresses
of the members in the Association.

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Has anyone seen this set of nails before?

http://facstaff.uindy.edu/~oaks/NailNotes/Type39CodeSetOSCP.jpg

They are a type (39) 1 1/2 x 1/4 round raised, oval shank chisel point
set. Obviously Canadian, but as far as I know, unreported. I would like
to complete this set, so if anyone has the 0, 3 or 9 please contact me
if you would. This set has the chisel point perpendicular relative to
the date. In other words, if you looked at the date the chisel point
would be vertical to that date. Some Canadian nails have the date
horizontal relative to the date.  That is not the case with this set of nails.

Again, if anyone has the three missing nails, please contact me and
hopefully I can swap something for them. Also information as to who used
these nails and in what capacity would be appreciated.

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I recently received an almost complete set of nails from the Potomac
Edison utility company. In that set is a nail that is unreported in any
of the existing books. I have made a scan of this nail and include it
here. It is a:

1936 (07) 1 1/4 x 3/16 round raised, copper nail. No gripper markings.

http://facstaff.uindy.edu/~oaks/NailNotes/1936(07)CopperHead.jpg
http://facstaff.uindy.edu/~oaks/NailNotes/1936(07)CopperShank.jpg

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This just in from Charles & Cheryl Johnson <haskell@centurytel.net>:

       Happened to be in Lewistown on business on 11-9-04.  Visited the
Spring Creek Junction Trestle that was built by the GN and shared with
the Milw.  Upon examination of the trestle and looking at the pile caps
that supported the trestle, I noticed some 31 nails that had been placed
in the 18" X 18" pile caps.  We've examined many a bridge and trestle
built by the GN and never found any nails before, but, then again, we
never did look in the pile caps.  We always looked in the bridge
timbers.  Managed to pull 28 2 1/2 X 1/4 rnd R (07) stl nails.  The
other interesting thing that was noted is that they were only found on
the north side of the trestle.  Given this, we're going to have to go
back and reexamine many of the bridges and trestles that we've visited
in the past.  Thought this would make a good little ditty for your nail
notes.

http://facstaff.uindy.edu/~oaks/NailNotes/31bridgetimber.jpg
http://facstaff.uindy.edu/~oaks/NailNotes/SpringCreekJct11-9-04(6).jpg
 
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From Steve & Nancy McCue <snm1023@msn.com>:

Hello from Arizona - You might be aware of this already but I thought
I'd pass it on anyway. I tried a "Framer's" hammer this week for pulling
date nails and it works better than the Wonder bar I had been using for
many years. It's about 22 oz, length is 16 " and costs about 40 bucks.
As I get older I need to find easier ways to do things. On hard to pull
nails I put the claw under the head and kick the handle. Comes right out.
 
A friend & I went along the old El Paso & SW line in so Az this week.
Pulled about 100 20-30's. Then went to an old long gone Az Eastern line
that has only the berm left. We walked a couple miles and picked up
about 45  1909 nails, all in great shape due to our lack of rainfall.
Here's some of them - not cleaned yet. Steve Mc Cue

http://facstaff.uindy.edu/~oaks/NailNotes/hammer.jpg
http://facstaff.uindy.edu/~oaks/NailNotes/nails.jpg

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Happy nailing!  ---Rolland (with Jeff lurking in the background,
wielding influence in subtle ways:)


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Jeffrey A. Oaks, Associate Professor
Department of Mathematics and Computer Science
University of Indianapolis
1400 E. Hanna Ave.
Indianapolis, IN 46227




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